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Apparent Contradictions to Predestination
There are a number
of verses that seem to Contradict the whole
concept of Predestination. I will attempt to
deal with some of them here. However, even
if I cannot deal with them to your
satisfaction, we are still stuck with the
huge volume of verses that talk specifically
about the Elect and Predestination.
Therefore the weight of the proof really
falls on the Arminian to dispute those
verses. You always want to view each passage
of the Bible through the screen of ALL the
Bible never taking any passage out of
context.
Passages in Ezekial
Ezek.
33:11
Say to them,
`As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign
LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the
wicked, but rather that they turn from their
ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil
ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?'
Ezek. 18:23
Do
I take any pleasure in the death of the
wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather,
am I not pleased when they turn from their
ways and live?
Ezek. 18:32
For I take no pleasure in the death of
anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent
and live!
In
regard to the above Ezek passages:
All
scripture must be interpreted in light of
other scripture. On the surface one would
view these statements to mean that God wants
all mankind to be saved. But the reality of
it is if God wanted all mankind to be saved,
could he not do it? Of course he could. He
is God after all and he can do anything he
wants. The issue then is, in light of the
concept that all men are doomed and God thru
his mercy saves some, these 2 passages then
make perfect sense.
Who
are the wicked? Is it men who are evil
incarnate only? Or is it the people of
Israel who sin against God?
Who
are the wicked, is it only the people of
Israel or is it us too? Are we not wicked
too?
Who
are the wicked is it not me and you? Did we
not hate God before we were Christians?
Yet
are we not chosen by him for His glory to
repent? Thus the Lord is happy when we who
are wicked turn from our evil ways. It is
also important to note that both prior to
this and after this Ezekiel declares that it
is God who takes out our wicked heart and
puts in a heart after him.
Ezek. 11:19
I
will give them an undivided heart and put a
new spirit in them; I will remove from them
their heart of stone and give them a heart
of flesh. 20 Then they will follow my
decrees and be careful to keep my laws. They
will be my people, and I will be their God.
Ezek.
37:13
Then you, my
people, will know that I am the LORD, when I
open your graves and bring you up from them.
14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will
live, and I will settle you in your own
land. Then you will know that I the LORD
have spoken, and I have done it, declares
the LORD.'"
also
Ezek
36:26-27
Secondly we have to understand that God does
NOT rejoice in the death of the wicked.
However He does not avoid it either. Just
because God does not enjoy it or take
pleasure in it, does not mean He does not do
it. God is just and justice will be served.
The wicked will be punished. And God will
mourn when that happens. (Of course we have
trouble understanding how an Omnipotent God
could mourn at something He could prevent if
He so desired. But that is OUR limitation,
not His).
II Pet. 3:9
2Pet. 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise,
as some understand slowness. He is patient
with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but
everyone to come to repentance.
(please read
this verse in context, click here)
This seems to imply that every one will be
saved. But we have to ask: Who is Peter
writing to?
2Pet 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus
Christ, To those who through the
righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus
Christ have received a faith as
precious as ours:
He
is obviously writing to believers.
(It
is interesting also to look at 1Pet 1:1
1Pet. 1:1
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To God's
elect, strangers in the world, scattered
throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia
and Bithynia, 2 who have been chosen
according to the foreknowledge of God the
Father, through the sanctifying work of the
Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and
sprinkling by his blood: Grace and peace be
yours in abundance.
)
Secondly who is that specific verse
addressed to:
He is patient with
you, not wanting anyone to perish,
but everyone to come to repentance.
He
is patient with YOU. The saved, i.e. the
elect. In my humble opinion he is saying
that the Lord will not return until all the
elect have come to repentance. Read it as
follows "He is patient with you, not wanting
any of you to perish but everyone of you to
come to repentance."
Secondly, this passage is talking about the
return of Christ. How would delaying the
return of Christ, avoid people from
perishing? Because if they are going to die
without Christ, they are going to perish. To
avoid people from perishing you need to do
something drastic, like having them
experience Christ in such a way that like
Paul they have no choice but to accept
Christ. Delaying Christ's return makes
things worse, because more people are born
and the more that are born, the more that go
to Hell. (In fact if you subscribe to the
fact that a soul not born, is in heaven
waiting to be born which is a Mormon
doctrine - then this is even worse). Had
Christ returned a year after his
resurrection the population of the world
would not be over 5 Billion. Of which close
to 4 Billion may not be saved. This
situation is getting worse. Obviously this
cannot be want Peter is talking about. Could
it instead mean that God intends that all
the ELECT be born and saved. Because if they
are elect, and their election and calling
are of God, then giving them time to be
born, gives them the opportunity to be
saved.
Note that in all cases the very same verse
that seems to contradict predestination
immediately prior to it or after it
reaffirms it.
Thirdly, let us look at this verse some
more. Recall my short paper on the two
different
"wills" of God.
For the sake of the argument let's assume
that this passage is NOT referring to only
the elect. In that case what "will" is being
referred to here?
1.
It couldn't be the Sovereign Will, because
if it were the Sovereign Will and this was
referring to ALL mankind. Then who would be
saved? Obviously ALL mankind would be saved
(because by definition the Sovereign Will of
God is what ALWAYS happens). And we know all
mankind is not going to be saved from the
Bible.
2.
It couldn't be the Moral Will because then
it sounds that God made a Promise that He
won't be able to keep.
Let
me submit that if you assume the passage
means really all mankind and not just the
elect, it then refers instead to an Attitude
that God has, similar to the attitude
expressed in Ezekial above. I.e. God does
not want anyone to perish, but He will allow
them to perish.
I
Tim 2:1
1Tim. 2:1 I
urge, then, first of all, that requests,
prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be
made for everyone-- 2 for kings and all
those in authority, that we may live
peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness
and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases
God our Savior, 4 who wants all men to be
saved and to come to a knowledge of the
truth.
Again in light of scripture the only way to
comprehend this verse is to comprehend "all
men" as how we would say "all nations of
men".
(Calvin's Institutes, pg 984).
And again in the
same book Paul reaffirms the doctrine that
God is the one who leads them to the truth
and grants repentance.
2Tim. 2:25
Those who oppose him he must gently
instruct, in the hope that God will grant
them repentance leading them to a knowledge
of the truth, 26 and that they will come to
their senses and escape from the trap of the
devil, who has taken them captive to do his
will.
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The Wedding Feast.
Matt. 22:11
"But when the king
came in to see the guests, he noticed a man
there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
12 `Friend,' he asked, `how did you get in
here without wedding clothes?' The man was
speechless. 13 "Then the king told the
attendants, `Tie him hand and foot, and
throw him outside, into the darkness, where
there will be weeping and gnashing of
teeth.' 14
"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
All these verses
reemphasize that many are invited by few are
chosen.
This doctrine may sound harsh. But it isn’t,
please remember that
When God sends a man to Hell, that's
justice, because we all deserve Hell.
When God saves one of those men who deserve
Hell, that's Grace, because none of us
deserve to be saved.
When we understand that we can
do no less than to fall flat on our face and
worship Him. That's Glory.
And most
importantly, if you aren’t a Christian
today, and you want to become one, that’s an
indication that the Holy Spirit is working
in your life.
There are other
verses. I would be happy to deal with them
individually as they are brought to my
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